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Debate: The military numbers game

Why so many JSFs, subs?

by Rodger Shanahan - 11 April 2012 12:08PM

In his most recent Lowy lecture, Alan Dupont advocated a re-evaluation of the need for 12 submarines and 100 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF) in light of the economic and strategic circumstances Defence is likely to face. His argument was not that there was no need for these hugely expensive platforms, but rather that the changing geostrategic circumstances since the last Defence White Paper called for a more fundamental review of the reasoning behind the quantity the Government plans to purchase.

This is entirely reasonable. But the difficulty has always been to understand the rationale by which Defence has determined the number of platforms it requires. Why do we need 12 submarines when we currently have six? Discussion as to how this figure was arrived at is not publicly available, either because the ADF's requirement for submarines is classified or because it wasn't based on a detailed study into such requirements and hence wouldn't stand up to public scrutiny. The problem is that we don't know.

We have a much better insight as to how the JSF figure was arrived at. Nearly two years ago I wrote that 100 seemed to be a suspiciously round number for a major equipment purchase. Hugh White graciously replied that he could explain it, noting that the 2000 White Paper team simply got out a pencil and the proverbial back of the fag packet, added up the number of F/A-18s and F-111s, subtracted one and...hey presto, it equalled 100. As Hugh explained:

That was not, of course, an adequate basis for deciding how many JSF we would really need, but it was I think an adequate basis to determine how much money to the nearest billion we needed to allocate to the job. The fact that the number we chose as an initial planning assumption has survived until now tells you something rather unsettling about Defence capability planning.

Which takes me back to my original point. If this number of JSFs was arrived at by a writing team on some pretty basic maths over a decade ago, why haven't the assumptions on which it was based been revisited? And what confidence can we have that the 2009 White Paper didn't simply apply multiplication (2x6=12) to arrive at submarine numbers where the 2000 team used addition and subtraction (71+30-1=100) as a basis for provisioning?

Alan Dupont argues for a re-evaluation of the platforms the ADF needs and can afford. Given the somewhat rudimentary methodology that appears to have gone into determining JSF and submarine numbers (numbers now appear writ in stone), it is perhaps appropriate that a more rigorous examination of capability requirements is called for. 

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Defence's big secret: There is no plan

by Hugh White - 12 April 2012 8:52AM

I share Rodger Shanahan's suspicions about submarine arithmetic. I am sure that the number 12 was reached simply by doubling the number we ordered last time with the Collins class. And we bought six Collins because we had six Oberons before that. So yes, it was as arbitrary as the decision in 2000 to make provision for 100 Joint Strike Fighters. And yes, this is not good enough. 

But the problem goes deeper than Rodger perhaps believes, because it is not just about numbers. Here is Defence's deepest secret: there is no plan. 

There is no plan for how the ADF will be used to achieve Australia's strategic objectives. And that is because no one has decided what our strategic objectives are. In other words, we do not know what the ADF is supposed to do. That is why there is no systematic way to decide how many of anything we need. But even worse, it means there is no systematic way to decide what we need at all.

The solution is simple but not easy. Before we can decide capabilities and numbers for the ADF, we must first decide quite clearly what we want the ADF to be able to do. This is a particularly difficult question to answer right now because our strategic circumstances are unusually uncertain in one very important regard: should our defence planning assume that America will continue to play the same role in Asia's strategic order and Australia's security over the next forty years as it has over the past forty years, or not?

If we assume it will, then 12 subs and 100 Joint Strike Fighters are more than we need. If we are not willing to make that assumption, then they are way fewer than we need, unless we are willing to forsake our claims to be a middle power. There is no point talking about numbers, or capabilities, until we have answered this question.

Let's have a Charter of Defence Honesty

by Jim Molan - 12 April 2012 1:56PM

Major Gen (Retd) Jim Molan is author of Running the War in Iraq.

The answer to Rodger's question ('Why so many JSFs, subs?') is not difficult except in its political dimension. Which is a bit like saying that the health care problem in Australia could be easily solved if we could just get rid of the sick people.

We will not make real progress in defence policy until we recognise that governments (not the ADF, not funding, not the quality of the argument or the strategic situation) are the biggest problem in the security of Australia. This is because there is absolutely no incentive for governments to be any clearer on strategic issues than they are at the moment. The result is as Rodger pointed out: voters don't know why governments do things in defence so we cannot assess government performance and therefore cannot hold them accountable.

Defence is so convoluted that very few understand it. Australian voters can readily see when things are wrong in health care because it affects them personally and they can vote accordingly. But because defence policy is so esoteric, the lag in cause and effect so long, and secrecy so often abused, Australians are forced to rely on the views of experts even more than in other areas. On the technical side, no government is expert to begin with. By the time ministers become expert, they also see the political benefit in not being open.

The institutional expert is the Chief of Defence Force. CDF gives his advice to the Minister in private, but at no stage do we, the voters, ever hear what CDF thinks is the right number of anything. Without doubt the Minister is the CDF's boss and the Minister should make the final decision and be held accountable. But we should know why the Minister acted, so we should publicly hear what the CDF thinks is the need.

Because, in the past, we the voters (and many good legislators) found that governments could not be trusted to keep their word on money matters, we found ourselves with a Charter of Budget Honesty. This aims to provide for sound fiscal management of the Australian economy, open dissemination about the status of public finances, and transparency in Australia's fiscal policy.

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Reader riposte: Fighting in the War Room

by Reader riposte - 13 April 2012 1:54PM

Andrew Carr, an Associate Lecturer in ANU's Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, writes:

Jim Molan makes a good argument that the Government is confused about its defence priorities, but unfortunately that's also true of the wider defence community in Australia. In just the last year we've seen major papers suggesting we should make offensive capabilities against China a core focus and papers suggesting we shouldn't make China much of a focus at all in our defence planning.

In between these poles, we have a wide range of views. Everyone thinks Iraq was a mistake, but few want to give up on the notion of forward deployment. Most want to see Australia improve its defence of continent capability, yet small increases in that direction all lead to the question 'why X and not Y', not to mention the role of sectional interests who are trying to shape the debate, whether on behalf of their branch of the Defence Force, or their local industry.

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Why 12 submarines? An imperfect answer

by Derek Woolner - 16 April 2012 2:59PM

Derek Woolner is a Visiting Fellow at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of the ANU. He is co-author, with Peter Yule, of The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin.

Rodger Shanahan asks for a more rigorous examination of the reasons for adopting 12 as the number of boats to be acquired by the future submarine project. Richard Brabin-Smith's post gives us a clear understanding of how such decisions on national security should be made, with due regard for strategic priorities.

In reality this process is seldom apparent to public gaze and observers can fairly conclude that rigorous analysis is often honoured in the breach. The strategic underpinnings for the future submarine are outlined in the 2009 Defence White Paper (p.63) but with a studied brevity that the Government has since expanded on only slightly.

Project development has necessarily continued, driven by an awareness of when aging equipment must be replaced to preserve Australia's abilities in submarine warfare. A Cabinet submission to initiate elements of the acquisition program was forwarded before the end of 2011. Simultaneously, the major European conventional submarine designers were awarded contracts to study how to enhance their designs to reach the levels of performance demanded by the RAN.

Meanwhile, Government silence on where the project is heading has left public discussion of the future submarines centred on the European commercial options, which the Chief of Navy has dismissed as possessing inadequate performance, and on the nuclear-powered option rejected by Government at the outset.

I suspect the Minister's consideration of the project has been little concerned with strategic priorities but, rather, focused on the issue of equipment maintenance. The development of the future submarine has grown in parallel with publicity about the difficulties of sustaining the Collins fleet. A force that is tasked with being ready to deploy four of its six boats has for long periods had two, one, sometimes no boats on offer.

The Minister can be excused for focusing on RAN fleet maintenance.

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Defence: A return to the 'core force'

by Alan Wrigley - 17 April 2012 10:25AM

Alan Wrigley is a former Deputy Secretary of the Defence Department (1982-85).

When I began work in Defence's newly established Force Development and Analysis division in mid-1975, the finishing touches were being added to the latest classified document intended to set out a basis for Australia's future force structure priorities and its 5-year expenditure plan. It contained words along the lines of 'Australia is among the world's developed countries least likely to be subject to a military attack in the foreseeable future'. Blunt, yes, but these words have stood the test of time.

The broad basis for setting future force priorities then was that our armed forces should include, at a core level, all the key military capabilities likely to be required to counter any military threat that might emerge in the future and that would require a long lead time to develop. This core force would provide an expansion base of military and technical skills that would greatly reduce the time to build a more capable force as any credible threat began to emerge.

Dispassionate consideration would, I believe, show that such a starting point remains at least as sound today as it was then.

There has been too much nonsense about the 'need to forecast what might happen in the next forty years.' It is quite impossible and that should be obvious. Every Australian military commitment in  the past 30 or so years, with the possible exception of East Timor, has been essentially discretionary in response to what governments have rather loosely interpreted as ANZUS 'obligations', using forces which we ourselves chose to contribute. And today there is even less credibility to any threat-based analysis than there was in 1975 in the dying days of the Soviet Union.

Recent writings on The Interpreter have called for a revaluation of the proposed numbers of the next fighter aircraft and submarines. In reality, to be blunt, there can be no sounder basis for setting time and quantity priorities than the 'core capabilities' process adopted in the 1970s.

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Defence: The 'core force' future is now

by Hugh White - 18 April 2012 10:13AM

It's over twenty-five years since Alan Wrigley left Defence, but his name is still one to conjure with on Russell Hill, and his splendid post shows why. It displays all the qualities that made it such a pleasure to see him in action. At a time when there seems room to doubt that those advising the Government on such matters know what they think and are willing to push their ideas, Alan's clarity and mordancy is a welcome reminder of how it can be done.

But I'm not sure that the 'core force' concept remains as sound a basis for defence planning today as Alan suggests. His argument is essentially that this concept has worked for the past four decades, so why shouldn't it work in future? The answer is that circumstances have changed.

The core force concept was developed in the mid-1970s in response to big shifts in Australia's strategic environment in the late 60s and early 70s. The most important of these was the US opening to China in 1972, which left America's primacy in Asia uncontested by any major Asian power. The consequences for Australia were plainly stated in the 1976 White Paper. Referring to the major powers of Asia – China, India and Japan – it said (para 2.19):

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Subs and jets: Pick a number

by Sam Roggeveen - 19 April 2012 4:47PM

A few notes to keep our conversation about the 'military numbers game' ticking along. First, I want to thank John Birmingham for bringing the attention of Fairfax readers to our debate.

Second, ASPI has entered the submarine debate with a new Strategic Insights paper, 'Mind the Gap: Getting serious About Submarines'. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but it seems to come down pretty hard on the idea that the Government can have both a bespoke, domestically-produced new submarine design and a doubling of the overall fleet. In fact, if it wants the first, we may even end up with no operational submarines at all in the early 2030s.

Third, I want to note Hugh White's claim, near the end of his most recent contribution to this debate, that 'if we are serious about exercising independent strategic weight, we need many more than six or even 12 submarines, and many more than 100 frontline aircraft.'

Hugh and I discussed the fighter requirement in September last year, and he seemed sympathetic to my argument that Australia was in too much of a hurry to acquire the Joint Strike Fighter. I also argued that the need for greater numbers of fighters was not urgent. Our capability in comparison to regional neighbours is likely to remain strong for some time, and although I agree with Hugh that about the power shift taking place in the region, China's expeditionary military power is far from serious enough to warrant a bigger Australian combat air force.

Photo by Flickr user practicalowl.

The Canberra column

The subterranean submarine debate

by Graeme Dobell - 23 April 2012 10:55AM

Canberra's submarine dithering illustrates the point that sometimes a decision not to make a decision actually amounts to a decision.

The longer Government defers or dithers on the actual steps involved in building a new submarine in Australia, the less scope it has for making such a decision. As time passes, the window for building in Oz sinks while the option of buying off-the-shelf from overseas rises. Thus, making no decision means that, eventually, the passage of time will mean only one decision is possible. And it will not be the outcome currently promised or proclaimed.

Style this the 'subterranean subs debate'. It is subterranean in the sense that a lot of argument is going on, but the central issue – whether to build new subs in Oz – is not formally or officially in play. 

The Government has a White Paper that says 12 boats will be built and they will be built here. This is what is known as a P-O-L-I-C-Y. The point about policy is that usually governments are supposed to act to bring the plan to reality. The words in the 2009 White Paper are clear enough:

...the Government has decided to acquire 12 new Future Submarines, to be assembled in South Australia. This will be a major design and construction program spanning three decades, and will be Australia's largest ever single defence project. The Future Submarine will have greater range, longer endurance on patrol, and expanded capabilities compared to the current Collins class submarine.

Sounds exciting. And hard. Little wonder Cabinet is in no rush to focus the periscope on this extremely difficult topic: your head hurts getting across the detail, the costs involved tend towards the incomprehensible and the political return for all this effort is virtually nil.

The failure to do much of anything to realise our 'largest ever single defence project' is driving the subterranean subs debate to the surface. And, ever ready to help, step forward the always-reliable Andrew Davies and Mark Thomson with a concise rendering of how the submarine dither is now a deep dilemma — Australia is running out of time to design and build an entirely new sub. read more

Digital age overtaking defence numbers debate

by Derek Woolner - 24 April 2012 9:07AM

Derek Woolner is a Visiting Fellow at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of the ANU. He is co-author, with Peter Yule, of The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin.

Posts by Alan Wrigley and Hugh White discussing the 'Core Force' concept as a methodology for planning military force structure raise old memories.

I worked for Defence Ministers Lance Barnard and Bill Morrison at the time of the concept's birth. The Whitlam Government had physically terminated the policy of forward defence by withdrawing the last of Australia's army and air contingents from Malaysia and Singapore. The size of the army had been considerably reduced by the abolition of conscription. The strategic environment had changed but what was to follow wasn't at all clear.

The Government needed a basis for capability development focused on the needs of national defence that didn't reproduce by default the structures of previous strategic policy. It also needed a political focus for defence after the Vietnam withdrawal that accommodated the official advice that Australia faced no foreseeable military threat for decades to come.

The Core Force concept provided both. As Alan Wrigley says, the ordered process driven by the concept was possible because the military operations that arose during its time were discretionary. That is, government could choose those missions for which the existing capacities of the Defence Force were adequate and decline international invitations where they were not. The old habit of expanding military capabilities by claiming operational shortcomings was stymied.

Over time, the Core Force approach was criticised for, in effect, spreading capability development too thinly, with some areas unable to retain sufficient expertise to facilitate future expansion.

It was replaced in the 1987 White Paper by force structure priorities more rigorously based on the requirements for defending Australia, driven by considerations of strategic geography and regional military capabilities developed in Paul Dibb's 1986 Review of Australia's defence capabilities.

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Defence: How will we know when to expand?

by Richard Brabin-Smith - 26 April 2012 11:01AM

Richard Brabin-Smith is a Visiting Fellow at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of the Australian National University. He was formerly Deputy Secretary of Defence and Chief Defence Scientist.

Let me make a contribution to the discussion of the 'core force' and expansion base initiated recently by Alan Wrigley. In my experience, these ideas, together with the other elements of the conceptual framework of which they were part, did indeed prove very valuable in helping to set priorities for force structure development, states of readiness for the force-in-being, and much else besides. 

They fostered a strategic, top-down approach to decision-making and helped keep at bay a bottom-up approach built primarily around the preservation of tribal totems. They allowed Defence to develop arguments that were both cohesive and cogent. It is a matter of regret that, with the passage of time, the influence of the core force and related ideas has faded.

But there was more to it than that: coupled with the idea of the expansion base was the concept of 'warning time'. The prospect of major assault on Australia was assessed as remote, and even if such a threat (an overused word) were to develop, it would take many years to do so. Australia would therefore be able to use this significant warning time to expand the Defence Force. Thus, during the 70s and the 80s and some way into the 90s, the time dimension was explicit in Australia's defence planning framework. This aspect too has become lost or at least mislaid, especially if the 2009 Defence White Paper is used as a guide.

Yet time is of the essence, and it is here that I must depart from Hugh White's response to Alan's post. I agree that, with the new Age of Asia, Australia's strategic environment is changing. But to address the question of how quickly these changes are taking place is as important as asking what the changes are and what their consequences might be. 

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Reader riposte: Alan Wrigley's 'core force'

by Reader riposte - 27 April 2012 2:36PM

Andrew Farran, formerly with the Departments of External Affairs and Defence, writes:

Alan Wrigley reminds us of the 'watershed' in defence policy development that existed in the mid-1970s, but the pity was that the opportunity was not grasped to recast force-structure thinking derived from the past. The strategic basis paper at that time correctly assessed that 'Australia is among the world's developed countries least likely to be subject to a military attack in the foreseeable future'. (This is still the case.)

So instead, the 'core' concept was adopted, as described by Alan, which was to develop '(a)ll the key military capabilities likely to be required to counter any military threat that might emerge in the future and that would require a long lead time to develop. This core force would provide an expansion base of military and technical skills that would greatly reduce the time to build a more capable force as any credible threat began to emerge'.

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Defence: It's too risky to wait

by Hugh White - 30 April 2012 9:15AM

Three quick points in response to Sam on fighter numbers and timing. He suggests that we could wait until China has, or is much closer to having, the ability to project serious power to our shores before buying the large numbers of aircraft I have argued we'd need to defend ourselves from China independently.

First, we need to be clear about what we are discussing. On the one hand, there is a question about what forces we would need to exercise middle-power strategic weight on our own account if (for any one of several reasons) we find ourselves in a more contested Asia and can no longer rely on the US to play the same role in our security as it has played for the past few decades. 

There is a quite separate question about when we need to start to build those forces. Sam may be right that we do not yet need middle-power strategic weight, but if and when we do need it, we will require a lot more than 100 of whatever frontline aircraft we buy.

Second, the question of whether we yet need to start acquiring these and other 'middle power' forces depends how long those forces would take to develop, and how much warning we could expect before we needed them. All complex questions, of course, which take us back to the great debates about 'warning time', which were inextricably liked with the core force concepts Alan Wrigley has raised

I've always been conservative about warning time – unpleasant surprises are just too common in our business. For example, Sam's confidence that China cannot project serious power as far as Australia is not justified by China's lack of capability per se, but by his confidence that another big power, presumably the US, would stop it. If China was not opposed by another major power, it could already project very substantial forces our way. 

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China's modest military capabilities

by Sam Roggeveen - 30 April 2012 2:31PM

This passage in Hugh White's latest post deserves a response (emphasis added):

Sam's confidence that China cannot project serious power as far as Australia is not justified by China's lack of capability per se, but by his confidence that another big power, presumably the US, would stop it. If China was not opposed by another major power, it could already project very substantial forces our way.

Actually, my confidence is justified by China's capability. I follow Chinese military developments pretty closely, but I don't know which 'very substantial forces' Hugh is referring to. Yes, China does have global power projection capabilities of some kinds: nuclear weapons, for example, and probably cyber-attack capabilities.

But Hugh's remarks are made in the context of Australia's combat aircraft fleet. What type of forces does China have that would justify more than 100 frontline RAAF aircraft?

I ask this question not on the premise that the US is sticking around. Even if Washington pulled up stumps from the Asia Pacific tomorrow, I don't think China could send military forces in our direction that would justify more than three frontline squadrons of fighters.

China couldn't send bombers (the fleet is old and slow with insufficient range; see image, courtesy of Sinodefence) or fighters (China doesn't have the aerial tanker support to send them beyond the first island chain) or amphibious forces (they're growing and modernising, but mainly with the aim of crossing the Taiwan Strait) and certainly not aircraft carriers (even if China's sole carrier was operational, its air complement would be tiny and not terribly effective; should China decide to build more carriers, we will get plenty of warning time).

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