President Obama continued his string of 'new media' appearances (the other one was with Vox last month) this week, giving a wide-ranging interview for Vice News. Shane Smith, the somewhat controversial CEO of Vice, interviewed the president on ISIS, Iranian nuclear negotiations and climate change. He said this on the battle against ISIS

I’m worried about how, even if ISIL is defeated, the underlying problem of disaffected Sunnis around the world — but particularly in some of these areas including Libya, including Yemen — where a young man who’s growing up has no education, has no prospects for the future, is looking around and the one way he can get validation, power, respect is if he’s a fighter. ‘And this looks like the toughest gang around, so let me affiliate with them, and now you’re giving me a religious rationale for doing this.’ That’s a problem we’re going to have, generally. And we can’t keep thinking about counter terrorism and security as entirely separate from diplomacy, development, education.

Check out the full interview above.